When someone you love completes suicide: Article

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Re: When someone you love completes suicide: Article

Postby Blossom » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:36 am

cali....didn't know how to say this diplomatically on here without offending anyone, but the fellow is born-again...kept quoting the Bible at me, the 'oracle' stage I have witnessed a few times in my life. I believe this is also a painful internal experience.

Some happy news - went to dinner with old boyfriend who was in town for a visit (he had never met my son - that's how long ago...), and he gave me a (spare) melodion. I had returned my old melodion to the person I had borrowed it from - never thought I would have one in my hands again. Inspiration : can whip out my melodion and drown people out if necessary. Perfect. Sigh, this is chatting, not on topic. I won't delete though. I hope you are travelling well, cali.
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Re: When someone you love completes suicide: Article

Postby Bereaved1 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:17 am

Blossom, if this is what you posted about, I need one! Music is high on my emoCrash list. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgIcmQrT4aM
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Re: When someone you love completes suicide: Article

Postby Blossom » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:54 am

Um, the button accordion variety - gotta get off here - off topic.
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Re: When someone you love completes suicide: Article

Postby cali » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:54 am

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Re: When someone you love completes suicide: Article

Postby Blossom » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:14 pm

It's big, cali. The gates are flung open through this bereavement. So much to untangle, and the world doesn't stop while we are in the process. If it could just stay still for a minute.
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Re: When someone you love completes suicide: Article

Postby psyquestor » Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:47 pm

Cali, I agree with you. My son's illness clouded his thoughts. It was not my son who chose, but those ever present depressive thoughts. I don't believe the author is referring to this, so much as he is stating not to blame yourself. The choice was made by the person themselves - under whatever circumstances or illusion they were under - we did not choose it for them.

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Re: When someone you love completes suicide: Article

Postby cali » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:57 am

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Re: When someone you love completes suicide: Article

Postby Suzanne » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:08 am

Yes, Cali, I see your point. Dave was exactly in that position of feeling he had no choice. He just did not know how to live anymore. In our case, unlike yours, Dave had exhausted many, many classes of medications and many types of talk therapy. There was no relief in any of it for him. So for us, it was not that the medical system had failed, but that they just did not know enough about depression and how to treat it. I guess there is no blame there. That did not excuse the callousness of his psychopharmacologist when Dave's last course of medication resulted in serious and disturbing hallucinations. The emergency room doc was astounded at the combination of drugs Dave was taking. His therapist told Dave, "We are in uncharted territory." At that point Dave backed out of treatment and lived only a few more months.
Suicide is so complex. In the course of the past 6 years in my compulsive reading, I read an article about the difficulty of assessing the relationship between antidepressants and suicide (either to prevent or to exacerbate suicidal thoughts) because it is very difficult to predict exactly which patients with suicidal thoughts might actually complete suicide.

And, Blossom, a poem has found me! I was breezing through Poetry magazine online and there it was in the Summer issue. I will post it in a separate thread.

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